Strategery from Overseas
guys,
request one and all to check out inis's comment on game 8, and thought i'd start a separate thread to discuss it.. very very interesting, and opinions from all #3-ers would be highly welcome....
inis, firstly congratulations on your team rockinG it in your league... a true wagh for that. Hope to say the same for #3 next season. Also, super that you took the effort to document your team strategery for us.
one clap for the land of batting world records.. (hey come to think of it, it sounds lightly like the SA national team also copied your team's plan in THAT game....)
request one and all to check out inis's comment on game 8, and thought i'd start a separate thread to discuss it.. very very interesting, and opinions from all #3-ers would be highly welcome....
inis, firstly congratulations on your team rockinG it in your league... a true wagh for that. Hope to say the same for #3 next season. Also, super that you took the effort to document your team strategery for us.
one clap for the land of batting world records.. (hey come to think of it, it sounds lightly like the SA national team also copied your team's plan in THAT game....)
posted by koidy at 1:43 AM
7 Comments:
fellow #3 boys,
now that we know its the batting that lets us down either while setting a target or while chasing, the key for us would be to see the 11 identify guys who can swing and guys who can stay, the guys who can swing should be given options in the nets to d just that, guys like hui and vik who normally bat lower down can fit in to this role, they have the strength to do just this, apart from hui and vik druckB can also probably take this up, as the rest can do the job of rotating the strike, this will make sure that the runs are always coming, kishore can be a key single based rotation of strike guy(just like how he does on top-t)his speed is very key, find another quick runner and pair him up with kishore, also change the order, try to fit the quicker runners in the middle so that the run flow doesnt stop, experiment for a couple of matches and it will be easier to set the order after this.
when i started playing cricket here, my first game was good, i got a couple of wickets and didnt give away to many runs, the next three matches, we lost, i couldnt get my bowling right, and our batsmen also failed, so we all got together and figured that we were playing as 11 but no one knew the strength and weakness of the other players, so we all listed our strengths and weakness, this sorted ut field placements, bowling order and batting order, after that we have played 11 matches and we lost one and won the remaining ten.
i used to field in third man and thought i was wasted there as many singles were taken peacefully in the 30 yard, i suggested to my captain that i'd rather be inside the 30 to stop that runflow, it worked for us, now everytime we bat, we dont lose more than 5 wickets, which means that all of our run getting either batting first or chasing is done by the batsmen, while there is no pressure on the bowlers, and the bowlers do their bit by bowling a tight line and keeping the score under check, it works just fine for us.
fitness is also very key, somehow we must find time for some mild routine exercises, otherwise its difficult to push it on match day, everones schedules are different, so either guys have their own scene worked out or people with like schedules get together for some fitness based activities. just regular top-t tuff will suffice, table-t in house of sri will also be key.
come on now get together and crack the scene.
Im a big fan of the big hitters squad. maybe we can even have designated nets days for big hitters so even the bowlers can try their hand at working out the heavers.
A couple of matches saw opposition batting bludgeon our bowlers... even the last match we expected to get them out below hundred and they scored of 156 thanks to some blind heaving.
Vik had been making noises from day one but he's distracted by his bowling focus ;o)
Also Narendharr has been asking for more batting. And of course hui and koid can belt it. That's four guys and if you see the runs they have scored so far (except koid in a couple of games but still low scores) i think we have very little to lose.
Am i completely wrong?
i tend to agree with narahoo on this....though there are various merits to what inees has said.....winning is important but at this stage more important is to learn to play....we have to improvise and adapt to the standard of the league no doubt......but the not at the expense of totally discarding years of conventional wisdom.....a balance has to be drawn out....i feel that if we play to improve then once we start winning we will be very hard to beat....only
the turnaround might take a little more time.....but then who cares....
to learn the right way to play the game is indeed the right approach, but to be able to play to a set plan is also quite key.
if the initial batsmen fail, and if there is a need to keep the runs coming, a couple of sloggers is a good bet, they can undo the rhythm of the bowlers, and keep the runs coming, this again only if the initial batsmen fail, alternately, if the batsmen click and score well, these sloggers when they come to bat, can still get the runs because they can slog well, thereby the runflow when you are batting never stops whether you are setting a score or chasing.
since this is season1 the winning vs learning ratio should obviously lean towards learning, but now that the learning is done and much needed match experience has also been there, a couple of strategies adn plans would be quite interesting for future games, try it for a couple of games, if it works it works, purely for the runs that can be had, it is such a bonus.
i would like to add to this our last match played yesterday against a seasoned team(Century Cricket Club) a group of pakis, even at this level they play with some obscene young speedsters, the game was shortened to 25 overs because of inclement weather, we won the toss, elected to bat and started off rather poorly, we lost our opener in the first over, and then the other opener in the 6th over with the score reading 36/2 in 6, the next pair played someof the best cricket i have seen our team play here, controlled aggression say us accelerate to 85/2 at the end of 11, at this point the opponents got their spinners and medium paces to slow the game, but our bats men would have none of this nonsense and the spinners were hit all over the place, by the ned of the 18th over we were 152, and were greedily eying the 200, the weather changed dramatically from cool and pleasant to hot and terrible, the run flow continued and we eneded with 214/5 at the end of 25, with one speacialist batsman still to play.
this score incidentally is our highest and we bundled them out for 122 in 25, could have gotten them for 90, but their last pair did some heaving and got them past 100.
our plan is simple, the batsmen play for as long as they can and dont throw their wicket away, it is never enough if you have scored 30 odd runs, the jobs not done, stay there and keep the runs coming, this sets the scene for them, and almost all the time, they just do the job while we sit back and enjoy the game, then its the bolwers job to get the wickets and keep it tight, and we are able to do just that because of the run cushion we have.
keep this thread going.......
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Sensible (and polite) guys like us are not going to totally discount "years of conventional wisdom" but a team of sachins and dravids could use the occasional dhonis (and sehwags).
Not that it's easy to get a dhoni - but then we dont have a sachin either.
Im talking about short term plans and not short cuts. And i think a slogger is a specialist!
Check out Oui!
A short-cut that expands into a short-term plan is a good thing. It's even better if it can grow into strategy. The problem is if it just stays put, without evolution from the players who fit into their roles and deliver.
I'm with Narahoo as well. Going into a game with a clear mindset as to who is doing what, and the best way to do it, is beneficial both short-term and long-term. This clarity is probably best defined in the nets. Given the frequency with which these reports mention run-outs, maybe strike rotation is also something that needs special attention, in addition to general batting/bowling/fielding technique. If the bats & bowlers deliver right away, then the team is in good shape, but if it takes time, then it's time well spent.
If you're chasing 8 runs an over, technique ain't going to help all the way. Let the heavers have a go, as long as they know who they are. But even heavers need to get bat to ball.
Fitness - I think all aspects of the game will come much more easily if the body can take the stress. More stamina and endurance means bowlers will keep hitting the right spots and batsmen will keep hitting the ball cleanly even at the end of the innings.
Inis makes a key point about recognizing abilities and limitations of the league one plays in. Sometimes even the best strategies fall flat because guys aren't equipped to execute them. That's when one has fun, I suppose.
Cheers to assorted global cricketing Bikes,
Sumant
I think we're all more or less accepting the diffferent strokes for different folks theory. So the best strat for the team is probably to identify the best strat for each individual and work with that.
Speaking for myself (with due thanks to all those who feel i can smash it) I believe that developing a sound technique is essential.. not for "elegant batting", but as the method most likely to produce a)longer stints at the crease and b) more consistent run scoring. For complete beginners like me, it'll probably take longer to learn (or practice, really) how to heave with even a small chance of success. Given that over 50% of our team didn't even knbow what a cricket ball felt like six months ago, knowing what to do before deciding not to do it seems essential to me.
Case in point is Jubbs. I think he's far more likely to score runs when he's batting correctly as opposed to slogging, based on what we've seen of him in the nets and matches so far. For some other guys, this may be the other way around. Some rudimentary technique, however, seems essential even for slogging.
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